tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13527460.post114791321424659289..comments2023-09-29T08:34:51.146-04:00Comments on creation project: Story, Discipleship, Blue Like Jazz on the CouchJonathan Dodsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12609365010522773245noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13527460.post-1147991757834727262006-05-18T18:35:00.000-04:002006-05-18T18:35:00.000-04:00I am going to put my entire paper on my blog in a ...I am going to put my entire paper on my blog in a series of 15 or so posts. I would love feedback and responses overthere but I will be glad to post some excerpts here as well.jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13504099464382631811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13527460.post-1147989115208052652006-05-18T17:51:00.000-04:002006-05-18T17:51:00.000-04:00I never expected such a coherence in comments on t...I never expected such a coherence in comments on this entry- pretty telling.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Jason would be willing to forward some excerpts from his discipleship project?Jonathan Dodsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12609365010522773245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13527460.post-1147972616011963122006-05-18T13:16:00.000-04:002006-05-18T13:16:00.000-04:00Similar to Jason's thots, we've been gladly strugg...Similar to Jason's thots, we've been gladly struggling through what disicpleship means and looks like. Some of the men at WBC have been reading McLaren, Murrow, Driscoll etc. and really feel like something needs to change in the way we 'do church' and live as Jesus' people. <BR/><BR/>So last Saturday morning we skipped the cartoons and about 8 men talked through the topic 'why do young men tend to abandon or walk away from their faith in Christ during the college years?' <BR/><BR/>The answers were all over the map, but we setteled on two key points:<BR/>1. Discipleship is lifelong, and the responsibility of every Jesus follower. i.e. Titus 2 'older men teach younger men.'<BR/><BR/>2. We must clearly teach sound doctrine under the umbrella of God's total plan and purpose for his people. i.e biblical theology that positions Jesus as the starter, finisher, and enabler of our faith.<BR/> <BR/>Call me crazy but I think I smell what you've been cooking and we're using the same recipe, too?!Josh O.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14124016033204476005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13527460.post-1147968811795561152006-05-18T12:13:00.000-04:002006-05-18T12:13:00.000-04:00don't worry, i haven't read Blue Like Jazz either ...don't worry, i haven't read Blue Like Jazz either (at least not all the way through).<BR/><BR/>great thoughts and summation of the story. and you perfectly highlighted the reason we need the story because functionaly Jesus will never be the climax of our story in this age.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12254409578606959716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13527460.post-1147965495685184632006-05-18T11:18:00.000-04:002006-05-18T11:18:00.000-04:00Jonathan,Thanks for sharing this. I have spent a l...Jonathan,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for sharing this. I have spent a lot of time over that last two years thinking about discipleship. I did my MAR thesis on developing a new paradigm for discipleship that I thought did justice to biblical theology and came from understanding dicispleship as the way of life we are called to and not a program that we do which seems to plague much disicpleship thinking. It seemed necessary to start talking about disiclpeship first in terms of God's story as well. My version was Creation-Fall-Redemption. I like your explicit recognition of Jesus as the climax, I think that it was implicit in my paper but expressing it explicitly is a huge step forward. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>After understanding the story only then could we begin to look at our story or purpose or function within God's story. It seems to make sense that we look at our story out of the perspective of our creation in the image of God. So disciples are people who reflect God/Jesus. Disicpleship is then the Holy Spirit's transformative work in our lives of continuing the process of new creation conformity into the image of Jesus, who alone rightly "images forth" God.jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13504099464382631811noreply@blogger.com